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Crystina: Okay, we we are now recording. Go ahead, Daniel.

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Daniel Rosales: Okay, my name is Dan Gonzalez, and George Gonzalez is my son.

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Daniel Rosales: and we experienced

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Daniel Rosales: bad situation with my daughter in law. And

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Daniel Rosales: one of the things that came to mind, you know, I really got

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Daniel Rosales: concerned and and compassionate with what was happening, and all of you families that are

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Daniel Rosales: going through this. So I

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Daniel Rosales: came up with an idea of creating a memorial

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Daniel Rosales: for all of the victims.

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Daniel Rosales: and

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Daniel Rosales: the memorial

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Daniel Rosales: is designed primarily to

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Daniel Rosales: and

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Daniel Rosales: remember their loved ones.

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Daniel Rosales: And, more importantly.

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Daniel Rosales: I want the memorial to stand

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Daniel Rosales: tall, so that.

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Daniel Rosales: like several people have mentioned today that this incident does not happen again.

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Daniel Rosales: I want people to know what happened.

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Daniel Rosales: I wanted them to know the impact that it's had on families.

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Daniel Rosales: And then, of course, let's let's correct the problem.

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Daniel Rosales: and let's remember that and make sure that

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Daniel Rosales: no one

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Daniel Rosales: going forward has to face

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Daniel Rosales: these kinds of problems.

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Daniel Rosales: So that's the whole purpose for the memorial.

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Daniel Rosales: Now.

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Daniel Rosales: what I have done. And and prior to getting in touch with Christina.

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Daniel Rosales: I've talked to

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Daniel Rosales: the county commissioners here in Albert County.

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Daniel Rosales: and they were willing to donate the land for the memorial.

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Daniel Rosales: I've talked to

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Daniel Rosales: park and wreck from the town of Elizabeth.

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Daniel Rosales: and there's interest in doing continued maintenance on the memorial going forward.

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Daniel Rosales: So those are 2 big commitments that

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Daniel Rosales: got me started.

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Daniel Rosales: what the

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Daniel Rosales: the first concern I had was looking at

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Daniel Rosales: and what was happening, and I didn't want this effort to compete with anybody else who was creating memorials, or

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Daniel Rosales: anything related to that kind of function or activity.

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Daniel Rosales: And from what I understand, there's there's no one else out there.

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Daniel Rosales: Oh.

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Daniel Rosales: with working on an idea that that could compete with this. So what we want to do we have

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Daniel Rosales: as much as a hundred 50 acres that could be donated.

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Daniel Rosales: I don't think we need near that much, I think. I think even 10 acres would be

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Daniel Rosales: more than sufficient for this, but we'll have to determine that

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Daniel Rosales: in order to get started on something like this.

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Daniel Rosales: We have to really identify how many people want it, because I know there's some people that

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Daniel Rosales: want to keep this private. They they really

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Daniel Rosales: don't want to open up wounds that.

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Daniel Rosales: you know, have a scab over it, and they've been through hell and back, and they don't wanna

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Daniel Rosales: go through it again and working with a memorial that that might cause that. On the other hand, there's been people who have said that

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Daniel Rosales: having a central memorial

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Daniel Rosales: To honor their loved ones.

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Daniel Rosales: that would go a long ways in bringing closure to the families.

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Daniel Rosales: So there's there's a lot of ideas that are floating around.

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Daniel Rosales: and what I'm trying to do is

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Daniel Rosales: determine what are the wishes of the families?

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Daniel Rosales: But we need to identify

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Daniel Rosales: the families that want to go the memorial way.

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Daniel Rosales: And and this would be a State memorial.

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Daniel Rosales: And there, there's some other ideas I'd like to do

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Daniel Rosales: take it even at a higher level.

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Daniel Rosales: but they'll come later.

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Daniel Rosales: So with that, one of the things that I would like to accomplish

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Daniel Rosales: certainly answer any questions, any concerns that that you have.

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Daniel Rosales: And then

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Daniel Rosales: what I there's some things that I really need. If if we're going to move forward with this.

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Daniel Rosales: I really need to get a minimum a hundred

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Daniel Rosales: families that are interested in the memorial. And the reason for that is that

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Daniel Rosales: it's gonna take a lot of commitments from government agencies.

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Daniel Rosales: from local businesses.

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Daniel Rosales: There's there's a lot

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Daniel Rosales: going on there, and we need to make sure that this is really something that the majority

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Daniel Rosales: of the families want.

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Daniel Rosales: You know, if if there's only, you know, 20 or 30 families that want it.

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Daniel Rosales: I would say, we probably won't go forward with this.

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Daniel Rosales: Because of the magnitude of of of what we have to do and

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Daniel Rosales: the cost that's going to be involved.

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Daniel Rosales: and we have several

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Daniel Rosales: resources that we're looking at. That would be a great start in financing

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Daniel Rosales: the memorial.

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Daniel Rosales: But it's a big one. So I think that's that's the number. One thing we have here is we need to identify

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Daniel Rosales: 100 families that are committed to the to this, and are willing to be part of the list of volunteers

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Daniel Rosales: because we're gonna need a lot of volunteers. There's so many facets to this.

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Daniel Rosales: half dozen people cannot

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Daniel Rosales: that do the work that's needed.

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Daniel Rosales: first thing

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Daniel Rosales: we need to get a hundred families

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Daniel Rosales: involved and have them sign up

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Daniel Rosales: the the next thing is, we need to

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Daniel Rosales: This organization. The name of the organization that's going to take

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Daniel Rosales: ownership of the deed.

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Daniel Rosales: We can't transfer any property until we have

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Daniel Rosales: an owner to transfer the the property to. So that's another thing. We have to identify

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Daniel Rosales: what the organization is going to be, which I would hope would be a nonprofit organization.

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Daniel Rosales: and and the the board of that

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Daniel Rosales: nonprofit would be the ones that will administer

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Daniel Rosales: and and maintain

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Daniel Rosales: the memorial.

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Daniel Rosales: And since we expect this memorial to last for many, many, many years.

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Daniel Rosales: passed on from one generation to another. So again, that organization is really important.

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Daniel Rosales: We don't want something to just be built. And then.

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Daniel Rosales: 1020 years later, it's it's gone. That's not the purpose of this. This is something that's going to

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Daniel Rosales: live on for forever, as far as I'm concerned.

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Daniel Rosales: We're going to need

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Daniel Rosales: getting all the legal

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Daniel Rosales: issues out of the way.

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Daniel Rosales: We gotta identify our marketing, our fundraising

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Daniel Rosales: capabilities.

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Daniel Rosales: Just to start.

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Daniel Rosales: But we have a list of

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Daniel Rosales: items that need to be done by volunteers.

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Daniel Rosales: and once we get people to sign up.

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Daniel Rosales: we can then start assigning

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Daniel Rosales: portions of of this project to people. The more people we have will also reduce the amount of time

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Daniel Rosales: that any one volunteer has to give.

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Daniel Rosales: I don't want to burn anybody out.

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Daniel Rosales: and consequently, if if you just have a handful of people.

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Daniel Rosales: those people get burned out in eventually loose interest. So I want to take care of the volunteers and make sure that you're not overburdened with

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Daniel Rosales: with activities that you have volunteered for. But we really need experts on

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Daniel Rosales: on on marketing, reaching out

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Daniel Rosales: in private citizens.

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Daniel Rosales: To see if if they would be willing to support and help finance the memorial

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Daniel Rosales: which leads to the next item that we need to look at is we need a group of people to sit down

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Daniel Rosales: what that memorial will look like. What are the components?

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Daniel Rosales: I've I've received a

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Daniel Rosales: She sent me a list of things that would be

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Daniel Rosales: ideal for the memorial this size.

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Daniel Rosales: And there she's talking about having reflect reflective lakes or ponds, where people can sit down in in peace and tranquility, be able to

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Daniel Rosales: visit with the memory of their loved ones. Sidewalks?

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Daniel Rosales: a parking lot, of course.

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Daniel Rosales: and she's given up a list of a whole bunch of things. But we need to get a committee together to sit down and determine.

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Daniel Rosales: have a wall or or something to

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Daniel Rosales: because there's families that would like to do that, including

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Daniel Rosales: and we could put names

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Daniel Rosales: And those have those projects have worked real well in other

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Daniel Rosales: organizations and other other events and activities. We need to

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Daniel Rosales: identified or unidentified, to be on the site.

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Daniel Rosales: or, you know, do you just wanna go ahead and handle that in a separate private fashion.

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Daniel Rosales: There, there's so many alternatives.

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Daniel Rosales: Again? This is a very emotional thing.

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Daniel Rosales: of the needs from that standpoint, and we don't want to force anybody to

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Daniel Rosales: that represent the areas that are impacted. And I wanna get them together, formulate legislative team.

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Daniel Rosales: the responsibility of the legislature in that they, they basically created the problem

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Daniel Rosales: when they took away the regulations several years ago.

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Daniel Rosales: And we're the only State in the Union that does not regulate the mortuary and and crematory industries. And that's why we have the problem that we have.

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Daniel Rosales: and present it to the floor and get them to pay

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Daniel Rosales: for a large portion of the cost of this memorial.

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Daniel Rosales: and I think we could be successful in that.

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Daniel Rosales: But again, it, it takes a lot of work we have. We have to establish those things, other things that need to be addressed. Or we need to create the nonprofit.

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Daniel Rosales: We need to open a bank account.

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Daniel Rosales: We need to. As far as bringing opening up a nonprofit, we need to have a mission statement. We have the rules. We have to come up with the rules on in which that nonprofit is gonna

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Daniel Rosales: work and operate. And how are they going to administer

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Daniel Rosales: Those are all things that need to be

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Daniel Rosales: lot of them. There's a lot that a lot more involved. That's why we need a lot of people. And that's why

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Daniel Rosales: I look at at getting at least a hundred

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Daniel Rosales: people that are committed to this

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Daniel Rosales: because it's going to take a lot of work. It's going to take a village to make this happen.

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Daniel Rosales: It can happen, but

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Daniel Rosales: it does require a lot of people.

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Daniel Rosales: With that, I'd I'd like to just open it up for any questions that people may have.

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Daniel Rosales: and and then we can go

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Daniel Rosales: to one more

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Daniel Rosales: part of what I want to share with everybody. But for right now I'd like to open it up for any attendees of this zoom. Call to

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Daniel Rosales: present any questions.

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Daniel Rosales: Do you have any suggestions that you have.

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Daniel Rosales: This is a good time to get those laid out

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Daniel Rosales: and then do a

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Daniel Rosales: we could start working on.

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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: Okay, got a lot going on here at the house, too. That would, if we could, somehow, with the Memorial incorporated as a cemetery, then that way it would be able to receive perpetual care.

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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: Something to think about and throw in there, so for it to be able to live on forever. That might help that caveat that, you know, be a caveat to to make sure that that does happen. So I just thought I'd throw that in there before I forgot.

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Daniel Rosales: Well, I'm glad you mentioned that, because

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Daniel Rosales: or to most of the victims that will probably never be identified.

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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: Right? Right? Because they do have a concept. It's called an actuary.

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Daniel Rosales: Well, I I know that. Look at Apollo.

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Daniel Rosales: So what I I would like to do in in you know.

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Daniel Rosales: And I hope some of the people here will calls as well and get people to call you

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Crystina: So I have right now. And I'm working on a website right now. It is almost done. It's publishable right now. It's just not where I'd like it to be

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Crystina: so if you guys want to take a look at it, I can share that I don't yet have the sign up portion, and the reason that I wasn't comfortable yet sharing the website is because I just picked a registration domain with nobody's input.

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Crystina: so the website that with that right now may not be what it's it we have to decide on name for this and and that sort of thing. So right now it's a Colorado remembers.org

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Crystina: it's locked out right now. But I can share that and show you guys where the registration will be. But again, as soon as we pick a name

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Crystina: for this project. It may not live there anymore. So I don't want anybody sharing this website. Yet until we decide on a name for the memorial project.

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Daniel Rosales: Okay.

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Daniel Rosales: Well, let's see where this goes. And and you know, I certainly understand that there are much bigger

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Crystina: At least get.

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Daniel Rosales: The real personal

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Daniel Rosales: I need to know that because once we get started we're I know my work will start at that time, and I'll be dealing with a lot of people, and we have to make sure that

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Crystina: Deal.

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Daniel Rosales: Despite the effort

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Carol Prest: I think we have the momentum going now that we'll lose in a year or 2.

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Carol Prest: And so this is something we need to do now while it's still on the news, and people are aware of it, and we can get volunteers

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Carol Prest: and donations.

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Daniel Rosales: I heard that.

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Carol Prest: And we don't need to be logged into a design.

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Carol Prest: That can be fluid and will change, I'm sure, a little bit over time.

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Daniel Rosales: Well, there's something like.

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Hector: This, it would make it.

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Daniel Rosales: You right.

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Hector: I do like, if they use them.

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Daniel Rosales: Right now, the issue.

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Crystina: Hold on! Hold on! We have a couple of people talking over each other. Hold on a second

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Crystina: Go ahead, Hector. Sorry.

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Hector: Sorry I can't. I couldn't mute fast enough. I was trying to let you talk.

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Hector: I was saying

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Hector: I think it'd be good to have, like a phase plan.

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Hector: As far as you know.

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Hector: the breaking the ground type stuff, getting getting the site ready.

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Hector: Getting the infrastructure set up, and then some options moving forward. If we wanna do a moon pull versus a, you know, whatever the the

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Hector: That's all.

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Crystina: I'm considered a victim going forward with the criminal cases. My son is very much represented.

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Crystina: it's still very fresh, I think that I hate to use the word advantage, but I think it's an advantage right now, because a lot of those people. This gives them the opportunity to be remembered, whereas even with all these other things that are very much consuming for them in their lives. They're not being honored. They're not being recognized even as

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Crystina: I think we're gonna get a lot of reaction that people want this very much want this. And they want this. Now. We're not. It's it's yeah. I don't know.

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George R: One I don't want to mention.

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George R: I'm sorry.

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Ali Rose: Aye.

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George R: Go ahead! Eric!

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Ali Rose: Okay,

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Ali Rose: but I wanted to go ahead, George. It'll come back to me. It it just

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George R: One thing we can do right away is, is everybody

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George R: what kind of commitment they can get, cause I've gotten aunts and uncles that I didn't know wanted to be involved, that they they wanna jump in also. And and you know, even if they send $10,

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George R: it's still something they can. They can.

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George R: but you know, just just reach out and and try to spread the word so that other people can hear what we're doing.

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George R: Just be as loud as you can.

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Ali Rose: Okay, so can I jump in real quick before I forget.

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Daniel Rosales: Good, 50.

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Ali Rose: So.

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Ali Rose: Dan Daniel! You had mentioned a list.

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Ali Rose: Things that people can do, I think, if we have people that are already on board right now, and

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Ali Rose: you know, if we could have a clear direction so that way we can, you know, reach out to other people.

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Ali Rose: and gain that amount of people that you are are so are looking for. I think if we have a better.

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Ali Rose: You know which way to go, because I I feel like I'm kind of in the dark with this still

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Ali Rose: So anyway, that's what I wanted to say.

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Crystina: Button.

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Hector: Spawn.

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Daniel Rosales: That's a good.

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Hector: And Google.

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Daniel Rosales: Point. And I think with the

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Daniel Rosales: be signed the Memorial. There, there's there's so many things. So if we can put a list on there and make it easy for them to sign up

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Daniel Rosales: and or ask questions where they can almost get into a chat situation and ask questions if you have a concern. Well, I really like the idea, but I don't understand how

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Daniel Rosales: And how do I fit into that? We, we should be able to address that because

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George R: One thing is, you could be a resource and just collecting data

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Daniel Rosales: But just like this list of 100 that that we need.

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Crystina: Okay. So I have a couple of things to just throw in real quick that I'm jotting down. I have. I'll have the website. I'm marking down things that people are suggesting to put on there. So I'll have those things added today.

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Crystina: and if everybody's okay with us using this domain right now. I don't have a problem with it. I just don't want to be presumptuous in naming anything without anybody's input.

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Crystina: but everybody's welcome to look at the website now and give me some feedback and let me know what I need to add on here.

436
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Crystina: But I think one of the first things or one of the things that I heard you say, Daniel, I just wanna make sure I got right. You said, do like a 2 week deadline for those 100 names.

437
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Crystina: and then age interested. I think that's an excellent idea.

438
00:33:20.190 --> 00:33:36.079
Daniel Rosales: Oh, we we, you know in in, you know. Some of you may ask, W. Why, why do we need to get 100 names in there. Well, when I sit down with the county Commissioners to get the land

439
00:33:36.515 --> 00:33:41.550
Daniel Rosales: I I need to be able to show that th this is a real effort. It's it's not a

440
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Daniel Rosales: oh, like.

441
00:33:42.770 --> 00:33:43.615
Ali Rose: And.

442
00:33:44.620 --> 00:33:54.310
Daniel Rosales: Pie in the sky. Type of thing. It's real here. Here. The people here are the initial people. I expected to be the list to grow 200, 300,

443
00:33:54.350 --> 00:33:56.749
Daniel Rosales: but we need a hundred to start off with.

444
00:33:57.633 --> 00:34:02.790
Daniel Rosales: Now I'll mention something in regard to the land.

445
00:34:03.170 --> 00:34:09.519
Daniel Rosales: That piece of land we're talking about is is a really nice piece of land. It's not

446
00:34:09.699 --> 00:34:14.150
Daniel Rosales: next to a junkyard or in a commercial place. It's

447
00:34:14.190 --> 00:34:19.780
Daniel Rosales: it's in the open. It's it's a nice place, I I think if if you drove by it

448
00:34:19.880 --> 00:34:24.779
Daniel Rosales: you would agree that that's really the best place to have a memorial.

449
00:34:25.417 --> 00:34:28.039
Daniel Rosales: It's a hundred 50 acres, but there's

450
00:34:28.690 --> 00:34:30.400
Daniel Rosales: the American veterans

451
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Daniel Rosales: of.

452
00:34:32.270 --> 00:34:38.540
Daniel Rosales: There's even the town of Elizabeth. There's other organizations

453
00:34:38.650 --> 00:34:40.350
Daniel Rosales: that really

454
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Daniel Rosales: are looking at that piece of land, too. So we need to get through the basic information that we need. So I can go to the Commissioners, say, Okay, we're ready.

455
00:34:51.469 --> 00:34:53.389
Daniel Rosales: And he at

456
00:34:53.550 --> 00:34:54.630
Daniel Rosales: here's

457
00:34:55.590 --> 00:35:01.549
Daniel Rosales: the organization that's gonna take ownership of the deed of that property. And

458
00:35:01.974 --> 00:35:07.319
Daniel Rosales: this is what the memorial basically is, gonna you know, look like it doesn't have to be

459
00:35:08.003 --> 00:35:13.899
Daniel Rosales: detail. Right now, we just need the concept on basically what we want

460
00:35:13.910 --> 00:35:17.009
Daniel Rosales: that can come later. But these are things that

461
00:35:17.620 --> 00:35:25.159
Daniel Rosales: people that I'm gonna approach for are gonna expect that we should be organized at least to that level

462
00:35:25.310 --> 00:35:26.640
Daniel Rosales: so that we can

463
00:35:26.780 --> 00:35:28.320
Daniel Rosales: let them know that

464
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Daniel Rosales: their donation is gonna go to a good cause.

465
00:35:31.740 --> 00:35:36.089
Daniel Rosales: And we we gotta we. We gotta go in there as quick as we can.

466
00:35:36.220 --> 00:35:38.629
Daniel Rosales: because I know there's other

467
00:35:39.380 --> 00:35:41.739
Daniel Rosales: would like to get their hands in that land

468
00:35:41.790 --> 00:35:43.669
Daniel Rosales: are certainly pretty.

469
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Ali Rose: Fresher.

470
00:35:45.340 --> 00:35:51.230
Daniel Rosales: To the Commissioners. So there's some timelines that we have have to meet

471
00:35:51.420 --> 00:35:58.069
Daniel Rosales: and meet them as quick quick as possible. So if if this is gonna move forward, we need to.

472
00:35:58.140 --> 00:36:06.729
Daniel Rosales: We need to get things done rather quickly, at least the basic stuff. And then we'll add and and expand and do all that in in due time.

473
00:36:06.810 --> 00:36:09.330
Daniel Rosales: But we need to get the basic stuff done.

474
00:36:09.330 --> 00:36:19.879
Crystina: So what kind of deadline would you like to set for? Let's say the the naming, the setting up for the final one T. 3 and the board.

475
00:36:20.170 --> 00:36:26.720
Crystina: It sounds like those are kind of the administrative things that we need to do, so that we can move forward with some of those other things.

476
00:36:27.260 --> 00:36:33.070
Daniel Rosales: Correct. And and and here's where some volunteers can get together and say, this is what we want

477
00:36:33.090 --> 00:36:36.889
Daniel Rosales: that nonprofit to look like.

478
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Daniel Rosales: And these are the rules, cause I think the rules are, gonna be real important.

479
00:36:42.300 --> 00:36:46.000
Daniel Rosales: W. What authority do does that board have?

480
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Daniel Rosales: And what do they not have

481
00:36:48.946 --> 00:36:58.919
Daniel Rosales: it it. We have to really think about that. So we it's something that's going to take care of the immediate situation. But also, as we go into

482
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Daniel Rosales: year 1015, 2030

483
00:37:02.740 --> 00:37:06.600
Daniel Rosales: those rules will still be valid

484
00:37:07.394 --> 00:37:11.940
Daniel Rosales: and and we need to know, you know, who the officers are gonna be.

485
00:37:12.160 --> 00:37:19.636
Daniel Rosales: We need that that stuff, and and anybody can volunteer for that. And we really need help on that. So

486
00:37:20.360 --> 00:37:23.459
Daniel Rosales: those aren't technical, they're all administrative things.

487
00:37:23.610 --> 00:37:30.779
Daniel Rosales: But we wanna get input, we don't wanna just come up and say, Okay, here here are the rules that we want to put in here.

488
00:37:30.820 --> 00:37:38.440
Daniel Rosales: Well, those rules may not be the rules that people want. We want to get input because this is going to be your memorial.

489
00:37:38.610 --> 00:37:49.169
Daniel Rosales: And we want everyone to have a voice into how this gonna look like, how it's gonna function and how it's gonna serve the families. So

490
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Daniel Rosales: I think all of you are qualified for something like that. We just need to get your name

491
00:37:54.544 --> 00:38:06.069
Daniel Rosales: to Christina, and then we can set up some dates that we can have conference calls and start, start the process going forward. And I think that could be done

492
00:38:06.730 --> 00:38:17.730
Daniel Rosales: rather quickly if if we get enough people. But more importantly, I want to get. I want to be able to reach out to as many families to make sure they have an input.

493
00:38:17.860 --> 00:38:23.880
Daniel Rosales: Because if you get, you know 3 people, and they're gonna determine that. Well, what about the other

494
00:38:23.990 --> 00:38:25.740
Daniel Rosales: hundreds of families?

495
00:38:26.010 --> 00:38:29.949
Daniel Rosales: It would like be part of this. Then they will get a voice in this.

496
00:38:30.010 --> 00:38:32.350
Daniel Rosales: we need to make sure it's open.

497
00:38:32.370 --> 00:38:35.120
Daniel Rosales: And I think the website is certainly

498
00:38:35.623 --> 00:38:42.839
Daniel Rosales: one way that we can invite people. Let them know that they're welcomed, and we want their ideas because they're all good ideas.

499
00:38:43.040 --> 00:38:46.240
Daniel Rosales: No, no one person, no one

500
00:38:46.270 --> 00:38:52.339
Daniel Rosales: group, has some monopoly and good ideas. You need to include as many families as you can.

501
00:38:52.650 --> 00:38:53.380
Daniel Rosales: So

502
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Daniel Rosales: so so I,

503
00:38:57.780 --> 00:39:00.989
Daniel Rosales: Christina, I think what we can do is wait

504
00:39:01.040 --> 00:39:02.975
Daniel Rosales: to here, you know.

505
00:39:03.590 --> 00:39:04.460
Daniel Rosales: who

506
00:39:04.700 --> 00:39:06.919
Daniel Rosales: we'll be setting up quickly

507
00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:08.113
Daniel Rosales: and then

508
00:39:09.000 --> 00:39:11.110
Daniel Rosales: get a group of people

509
00:39:11.140 --> 00:39:13.400
Daniel Rosales: to also start reaching out

510
00:39:13.590 --> 00:39:14.930
Daniel Rosales: to families.

511
00:39:15.220 --> 00:39:20.150
Daniel Rosales: And you know, you can do it through newspapers, through radios, through

512
00:39:20.500 --> 00:39:25.160
Daniel Rosales: phone calls to posters at grocery stores and things like that

513
00:39:25.570 --> 00:39:30.640
Daniel Rosales: identifying people cause it's it's gonna be hard to identify a lot of the folks

514
00:39:30.780 --> 00:39:34.080
Daniel Rosales: because a lot of them have kept this very secret to themselves.

515
00:39:34.170 --> 00:39:38.350
Daniel Rosales: and their names are readily available.

516
00:39:38.370 --> 00:39:53.970
Daniel Rosales: and that becomes a really big task. And I think we just get the visibility out there to the public. This is what's happening. I think that's gonna save us a lot of time and effort. And I think we'll be rewarded that.

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Crystina: Excellent I did meet with

518
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Crystina: Erin, but Aaron, Potato, Tyler, Cunnington, and Melissa Henry this week.

519
00:40:04.750 --> 00:40:05.660
Crystina: and

520
00:40:06.610 --> 00:40:29.868
Crystina: We did an interview with each of them about the Memorial that they are waiting to run until Monday, because of kind of the flood of Rtn. News that we've already had this week. And they wanted to space it out a little bit to keep the momentum going, so I'll get back in touch with them and

521
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Crystina: between now and our meeting on Monday. The duplicate that we're having of this meeting on Monday at 10 am.

522
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Crystina: I'll make sure that we have, like a marketing package, that sort of thing, a press release together. I'll have the website topped off. And that way.

523
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Crystina: after our meeting on Monday. We can just hit the ground absolutely running.

524
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Daniel Rosales: Okay it I have a question for you for Dan, from

525
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Daniel Rosales: bug

526
00:41:00.880 --> 00:41:02.830
Daniel Rosales: from the natural funeral

527
00:41:03.914 --> 00:41:07.489
Daniel Rosales: one of the things that we would really like

528
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Daniel Rosales: for you and other mortgories to

529
00:41:11.340 --> 00:41:12.749
Daniel Rosales: you join us

530
00:41:12.840 --> 00:41:28.710
Daniel Rosales: is to make sure that we're we're doing this right. And you you guys can contribute a lot of good information. You deal with families on a daily basis, and I think you can contribute on things that might be valuable for the

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Daniel Rosales: for the memorial.

532
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Daniel Rosales: More importantly, I I wanna make sure that as this information gets out, and all this articles about how bad these people were, and all that. That's one side of it. The other side. We wanna make sure that

533
00:41:45.480 --> 00:41:49.620
Daniel Rosales: legitimate good mortuaries and crematories

534
00:41:49.800 --> 00:41:50.700
Daniel Rosales: are not

535
00:41:53.950 --> 00:41:54.810
Daniel Rosales: named

536
00:41:54.990 --> 00:41:59.090
Daniel Rosales: or put into the same group as as these vultures were.

537
00:41:59.120 --> 00:42:04.049
Daniel Rosales: So you guys are taken care of and you guys are

538
00:42:04.100 --> 00:42:06.260
Daniel Rosales: are behind the plan, and

539
00:42:06.480 --> 00:42:09.620
Daniel Rosales: the people can start building trust.

540
00:42:10.190 --> 00:42:13.929
Daniel Rosales: and when they hear your name they'll say, Oh, that's one of the good guys.

541
00:42:14.490 --> 00:42:21.250
Daniel Rosales: And and we want to make sure that the good legitimate burgeries are not getting punished.

542
00:42:21.784 --> 00:42:23.730
Daniel Rosales: Because they're doing a good job.

543
00:42:24.280 --> 00:42:25.530
Crystina: Yeah, absolutely.

544
00:42:25.850 --> 00:42:33.037
Daniel Ziskin: Thank you. And I'm I'm really glad to be in considered in the good guy category.

545
00:42:33.650 --> 00:42:38.078
Daniel Ziskin: and and yes, we'd be delighted to participate.

546
00:42:38.670 --> 00:42:42.670
Daniel Ziskin: But I also feel like this is your project, and

547
00:42:43.203 --> 00:42:48.150
Daniel Ziskin: we want to be support. We don't want to have a a leadership role

548
00:42:49.600 --> 00:42:52.340
Daniel Ziskin: in because it we don't want to take away

549
00:42:52.910 --> 00:42:56.609
Daniel Ziskin: what it would. The healing and the closure that's potential.

550
00:42:57.270 --> 00:42:59.599
Daniel Ziskin: When you create this yourselves.

551
00:43:00.240 --> 00:43:06.340
Daniel Rosales: There would be a there would really be a conflict of interest. I think people would be suspect

552
00:43:06.780 --> 00:43:14.710
Daniel Rosales: but for you to support and work with us. I think that's very important and very positive for everybody.

553
00:43:15.640 --> 00:43:19.599
Daniel Ziskin: The the other thing I heard, and

554
00:43:19.810 --> 00:43:20.830
Daniel Ziskin: is that

555
00:43:21.270 --> 00:43:25.339
Daniel Ziskin: there was kind of what blame on both the bad actors.

556
00:43:25.340 --> 00:43:26.149
Ali Rose: And also.

557
00:43:26.150 --> 00:43:28.129
Daniel Ziskin: So the Regulators

558
00:43:29.885 --> 00:43:30.880
Daniel Ziskin: and.

559
00:43:31.260 --> 00:43:31.910
Ali Rose: I.

560
00:43:31.910 --> 00:43:34.049
Daniel Ziskin: I feel like that. That is a

561
00:43:34.250 --> 00:43:40.569
Daniel Ziskin: in the Regulators. It's it's a that becomes a gray area because there are good people at the State.

562
00:43:40.986 --> 00:43:48.139
Daniel Ziskin: There are people that are conscientious and and protecting us, and they totally failed us in this particular case.

563
00:43:48.250 --> 00:43:50.849
Daniel Ziskin: So it's a little bit in the gray area.

564
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Daniel Rosales: Well, I I think Christina, you said that they're gonna be voting on this

565
00:43:58.900 --> 00:44:00.040
Daniel Rosales: next week

566
00:44:01.370 --> 00:44:02.490
Daniel Rosales: at the Legislature.

567
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Crystina: Actually, actually, I think Blanca can better address that. She's been kept up to speed much more. She's much more involved on that end.

568
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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: Hi, yeah. So we have to be very careful. So what's going on right now with legislation is, I'm just gonna go ahead and pull the Bandaid off and explain why Colorado is not Licensed

569
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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: Service Corporation International, which is the 5 funeral homes that were listed on the FBI victims advocate.

570
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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: She for funeral home choices was owned by one company. They go to one care center. It's the same one person doing the cremations for all 5 places.

571
00:44:43.015 --> 00:44:48.250
Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: That firm is called Sci Service Corporation in the in International.

572
00:44:48.550 --> 00:44:50.380
Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: In 1983,

573
00:44:50.560 --> 00:44:54.320
Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: they got their in their high level

574
00:44:54.490 --> 00:45:03.140
Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: managers and region manage regional managers. They sat on the board the State Board, and they got

575
00:45:03.998 --> 00:45:09.970
Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: they had senior advisors to the Governor, so they were able to get the deregulation.

576
00:45:10.020 --> 00:45:19.770
Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: It was a money move for them. The Colorado Funeral Directors Association, Michael Blackburn, in 1983, told legislation the same assemblies that are being held now

577
00:45:20.430 --> 00:45:27.440
Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: that not to do it, not to do it. But they did it because they're a lobbyist, that lobby for that.

578
00:45:27.530 --> 00:45:31.620
Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: So what's happening today? And while I cannot.

579
00:45:31.840 --> 00:45:37.590
Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: I can't. I can't speak gentle, because I'm so fired up about it, because right now

580
00:45:37.610 --> 00:45:47.229
Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: there's a whole ruse going on with the regulators and the lobbyists. There's a lobbyist, Jason Hopper Hopner. You can look him up.

581
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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: He is the main catalyst on why, these bills are not being passed. I sat and testified for Sb. 24, 1,100, and that's for the coroners to be credentialed because I was also deputy Corner up in Taller County.

582
00:46:00.270 --> 00:46:02.140
Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: We got that passed in a week.

583
00:46:02.180 --> 00:46:04.849
Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: It went to all the different hearings in one week.

584
00:46:06.030 --> 00:46:12.530
Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: Why, they can't get these bills passed. Why, we're back at square one. We had a hearing yesterday or 2 Thursday.

585
00:46:12.580 --> 00:46:28.450
Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: We had it Thursday at 6 o'clock in the night, at night, but not a lot of people were made aware of. There was not one family represented at this hearing, and this was for Sp. 24, 1, 73, to have licensing in the State, and we were licensed before.

586
00:46:28.620 --> 00:46:35.259
Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: but this Sci came in, got their people to get it deregulated, and for 40 years have held the market.

587
00:46:35.500 --> 00:46:42.740
Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: So then we get all these bad actors that when they lose their licenses in other states they come to Colorado, and I know this because that's

588
00:46:45.670 --> 00:47:00.019
Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: corner. I met several of them. No credential licensing, no experience in bombing, but that positions that they shouldn't have had because of who sat on the Board of Commissioners. And this is Teller county. It's not a secret, it's out there. So this has happened in Teller County.

589
00:47:00.190 --> 00:47:04.389
Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: So right now the wool is being pulled over your eyes, and we have until May 18

590
00:47:04.510 --> 00:47:08.530
Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: for them to pass these 3 bills that we need for Colorado to be different.

591
00:47:08.680 --> 00:47:13.190
Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: And they're making it seem complicated. But what they're doing is they're listening to a lobbyist.

592
00:47:13.270 --> 00:47:21.839
Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: I've registered over 735 emails to Taton Gardner, Roberts Soper. We've had 3 personal meetings

593
00:47:21.970 --> 00:47:23.300
Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: with a group.

594
00:47:24.000 --> 00:47:34.959
Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: and they keep acting like they don't understand why it's so hard. They don't understand. And it's really not hard, because all they have to do is mimic any of our neighboring States. But even better yet.

595
00:47:35.040 --> 00:47:40.490
Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: all they have to do is pull what was on the records for 1982, when there was regulations.

596
00:47:40.670 --> 00:47:47.100
Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: and use that as the baseline. But right now what happens is with us, the the the bill

597
00:47:47.470 --> 00:47:48.850
Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: we give the

598
00:47:51.840 --> 00:47:55.499
Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: in addition to the bill drafters, and then they drafted up the hearing.

599
00:47:55.570 --> 00:48:03.099
Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: They work with the lobbyist Jason, who also used to work at Dora. He was the executive director, and then he was also the governor.

600
00:48:03.460 --> 00:48:05.650
Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: or that shot this bill down in 2,000

601
00:48:08.750 --> 00:48:16.700
Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: out in the room every time you have these hearings. So right now it's back at square one, because they keep amending it

602
00:48:16.740 --> 00:48:21.859
Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: when they don't have to do that, when all they have to do is create what was in order

603
00:48:21.960 --> 00:48:34.720
Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: on 1982 present that because what that allows is the license to be reciprocated to the States around us, it covers the inspections, it covers the education. It covers the boards.

604
00:48:35.290 --> 00:48:37.520
Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: it covers everything. It's already written.

605
00:48:42.690 --> 00:48:43.654
Daniel Rosales: wow!

606
00:48:45.592 --> 00:48:47.440
Daniel Rosales: An idea that that.

607
00:48:47.440 --> 00:48:48.730
Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: That's what's going on.

608
00:48:49.430 --> 00:48:52.550
Daniel Rosales: An idea that you brought to my mind is.

609
00:48:52.770 --> 00:48:56.027
Daniel Rosales: since we have again very tight

610
00:48:57.050 --> 00:48:58.719
Daniel Rosales: deadline for this

611
00:48:58.790 --> 00:49:00.829
Daniel Rosales: the May eighteenth

612
00:49:01.040 --> 00:49:01.960
Daniel Rosales: about.

613
00:49:03.350 --> 00:49:05.740
Daniel Rosales: Would you be willing to

614
00:49:08.512 --> 00:49:11.769
Daniel Rosales: a part of interviews with the

615
00:49:12.810 --> 00:49:19.080
Daniel Rosales: the 4 networks here in Denver, ABC. Nbc. Cbs. And fox.

616
00:49:19.870 --> 00:49:24.642
Daniel Rosales: if if we could get them to interview you, and just save.

617
00:49:26.380 --> 00:49:32.799
Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: Yeah, absolutely. And that's what I'm gonna testify. Tuesday. You'll hear this again Tuesday, because I'm tired of it. I'm gonna call.

618
00:49:33.110 --> 00:49:43.299
Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: I am going to call the elephant out in the room because they keep asking, why was it deregulated? Why won't it pass? How come? And these legislatures soap

619
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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: for? And Robert say, Oh, we've been working on it for years. It doesn't tears. It took us one week to the corner qualifications to pass

620
00:49:54.410 --> 00:49:59.359
Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: last one week, and these guys are going back and forth. It's already been drafted.

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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: And and so they say they wanna make it happen. But come May eighteenth, I have a good feeling that it's all gonna be dead because they ran out of time. So I I I feel like it's an insult to the families. As for me, they see me coming, they go the other way at this point, because they know I call them out, but this time I'm gonna do it during the General Assembly during the test as my 3 min testimony. And I'm gonna put it all on the line because they keep asking

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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: Why were we deregulated, and nobody will answer them. What's that Guy Jason sitting right there in the room? And Christina has seen the credentials. I've showed her what I'm saying I have to say is allegations. So my allegations made. I have shown her in black and white the proof of where I've gotten this information as far as the list of lobbyists for 2024. It shows Jason as lobbyist for what is it, Dora and

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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: and the Service Corporation international. So he's lobbying for both sides. How?

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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: How? Dora is supposed to be fighting for you all for the families, for more regulations, and Sci is the funeral home, the big conglomerate that doesn't want licensing, and he represents them both. Oh, wait! Let me add another caveat.

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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: He also represents the Colorado community college system who Arapaho Community College falls under, who the mortuary science program falls under. And I already was told as my job as an instructor, that I have to give a disclaimer before I speak, because I do not represent the views

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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: of. I'm in a meeting, honey. I'm sorry the the views of

627
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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: the college which the college should be saying, we want licensing. We want credentials. We want people who know what they're doing. And I took this fight off because of everything I have seen by the Service Corporation of International Funeral Homes for 8 months in Southern Colorado

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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: that I had not seen in my whole 20 years of embalming, because I embalm and I meet with families, and I cremate I'm also Federal agent on Seymour, and had been a deputy Corner and Teller County, and seen the atrocious things from that funeral home up there from that guy who ran here from New Jersey, who was also listed on the FBI list of funeral home choices.

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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: So when I keep seeing these same bad

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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: players and actors get honored and and kudos and all these

631
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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: these things. It is so frustrating because

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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: I know better, and I can prove it. It's not just allegations or hearsay. It's let's do better. And when I'm reaching out to funeral homes and and funeral directors cause there's a lot of us that are here license, but they only speak to me under confidentiality.

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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: They? They're afraid to come out because they don't want to get blacklisted from any of the funeral homes or any of the corporations. And at this point I'm past that because they know what's going on, and they turn a blind eye to it. And so I I can't. I'm not gonna tell that line. I'm gonna be one of the real ones and say, say the hard things and present the hard questions because this is still going on till today.

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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: So in order to not to do anything about it. They are okay with what's going on. I have colleagues that are telling me they're still not putting the bodies in the refrigeration. We're still getting decomposed from the weekend pro leaving that I'm out all weekend long

635
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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: happening every day. So if you're okay to just sit there and do nothing about it. Then, you know, that's them. But every day I'm contacting somebody. I'm I'm calling somebody or emailing somebody, letting them know what information was brought to me today. And

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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: you know, that's that's just what my fight has been, because it's still happening. It's not just return to nature. It's not just Apollo. It's it's it's happening. It's still happening today in Pueblo, in Colorado Springs. There are funeral homes that a family just recently what was the Christina, a mother and a daughter funeral director had to

637
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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: white maggots and throw them off the floor

638
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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: onto the floor because of their improper handling. So there's a lot of cases that the news media doesn't cover. That's happening. There's a 20 year police officer from football. I'll never forget those images, and it didn't have to happen.

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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: and it still happens. So that's why I'm so passionate about it, and ask all the families to please speak up at these hearings and at these testimonies that the public can go to because they've had several of them that we were lucky to find out about just that day. They have they? They announce it that day, and we should have been able to sign up and testify. But we weren't able to. So

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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: that's why I keep saying, please do, please do be there Tuesday, if you can, or zoom in on Tuesday, and state your case because they need to be reminded, and they need to see the faces and hear the stories and the names, otherwise that lobbyist Jason.

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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: He has their their full attention.

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Daniel Rosales: Well, can can we?

643
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Daniel Rosales: And I know it's very short notice. Can we

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Daniel Rosales: get

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Daniel Rosales: families to

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Daniel Rosales: commit to be there on Tuesday?

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Daniel Rosales: And and we.

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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: Delete, that.

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Daniel Rosales: Have to fly

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Daniel Rosales: and and, more importantly, get interviewed by the TV networks.

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Crystina: Yes, we actually have. The the news will be there. They always are. And they do interviews with any of the families that are there in the courtroom afterwards, typically. And we've shared the links to that sign up on our community support and family pages.

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Crystina: So what I really need help with the most. If you guys who everybody who can hear my voice, please find the post when I post them and talk about it, make comments on there, get people to interact on it because there's a lot of information on on our pages. I post everything that we get in anything like that. But there's not a lot of interaction, because I don't think people realize that.

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Crystina: You know, we want people to interact. So. Those of you who are on here jump on there and and discuss things like this on there. If you see that I post a recap of our meeting today, you know. Comment on there that you were here, and you know, tag a few people and say, Hey, why don't you join us next time, and you know that kind of thing.

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Crystina: And that goes for the legislation. It goes for the court hearings for our meetings here. All of those things to get people involved and and understanding that they can be involved.

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Daniel Rosales: Well, I I, Christina.

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Daniel Rosales: can you

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Daniel Rosales: get me her

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Daniel Rosales: and contact information

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Daniel Rosales: and give if if give her mine, my, my

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Daniel Rosales: email and and phone number and all that.

661
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Daniel Rosales: So we can communicate

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Daniel Rosales: and try to gather as many people as we can to go there, because I think it's important

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Daniel Rosales: to get visibility. And if we can get

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Daniel Rosales: radio and TV stations to go to that meeting

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Daniel Rosales: which they may not think it's that big of a deal, just by looking at an agenda. But if they know that people are there, and we're going to be out there calling these people out, calling Sci out

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Daniel Rosales: in in shaming the legislators

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Daniel Rosales: to quit listening to the lobbyists and listen to the families who have have been damaged here. And I think we need to send that message out there, and that's gonna put them in a really tough position if they they don't pass this.

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Daniel Rosales: But we have. We have to embarrass them. We have to.

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Crystina: Woo.

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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: Yeah, I think so. I think so. We had took it to Senator Robert Space, Facebook, page one weekend, and.

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Crystina: Yes, we did.

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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: Did that offend him?

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Crystina: It was Zoe.

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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: You wouldn't even.

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Crystina: Look at me!

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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: The next hearing, and he's always Hi Blanca! And the next hearing he would not even look at me.

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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: So I was like, Oh, we might have went too far. But I think we need to do it again, because listening to Soper and Titan the other day, Thursday, was really disappointing, too, because again, it's that lobbyist in their ear, and they are just. They're just taking the bait meeting it. And I don't understand why, because it's not like they're up for reelection, or you know, that Guy can do anything for their jurisdiction. So it's like, why are they listening to them?

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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: And, as my husband says they don't have to. So yeah, you need to find out. Why are they listening to them instead of the professionals who know, instead of the families that are enduring this.

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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: and they keep saying they want this passed. Put your money where your mouth is, just stay up late one night and copy the the draft from 1982. When you're done.

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Crystina: Okay. I'll type it up for him.

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Crystina: Come on, Heath.

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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: I mean Sheila has the drafter. Sheila. Sheila is a family member who's been affected, and the person who was drafting the bill is on her ski dial. So what is problem?

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Daniel Rosales: Yeah.

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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: Well, I mean I know.

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Daniel Rosales: That's the problem stays.

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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: But yeah, you know, it's it's just that easy.

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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: We did it for the coroners. We used another States sample. And like, I said we got it was just introduced, and we got it done in a week, and Soper and Robert say they've been working on this for years. Why.

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Daniel Rosales: Yeah.

689
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Daniel Rosales: I think that

690
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Daniel Rosales: we need to

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Daniel Rosales: bring

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Daniel Rosales: this information out to the public.

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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: Agreed.

694
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Daniel Rosales: And and put the pressure on them.

695
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Daniel Rosales: And if if we can get

696
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Daniel Rosales: people to understand that they're listening to the lobbyists, this is this isn't rocket science. It's something very simple. They could look at what we had even before they got rid of regulate.

697
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Daniel Rosales: There, there's it's this is easy. It's easy, and for them.

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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: Yes.

699
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Daniel Rosales: To run the risk of

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Daniel Rosales: missing the deadline of the eighteenth

701
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Daniel Rosales: they need to be ashamed of themselves, and people need to know that they don't care.

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Daniel Rosales: Yeah.

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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: Yeah, you know that.

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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: That's the thing. And so, yeah, if we can help get that message out, if we can do that over the weekend. We can get fat, Mr. Rosalas. You could even testify as well. You're a Colorado citizen cause. When I testify, I have to say I'm testifying as a private citizen because of my state jobs with I'm a I'm a my state jobs and

705
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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: that's why. So I have to like, take the day off of work.

706
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Daniel Rosales: I would love to do that.

707
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Daniel Rosales: I can certainly make myself available for that.

708
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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: That would be.

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Crystina: I am intending to. I'm intending to be there. But

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Crystina: I'm having transportation issues this week.

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Crystina: So all the way back.

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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: Do it.

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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: will you, zoom? Will you testify by zoom via zoom? Because that's how I'm gonna do it because I'm in a quote unquote class. But I'm gonna have my personal computer set up in the other room. And then Erin is gonna text me when it's my turn. So that's that's how I'm kind of playing that day. I'm running a risk that day, but it's too important not to.

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Crystina: Yep.

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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: Because it's 173. Yeah, it's it's let's be 24173, Christina. And you really moved them last time. I don't think it would have gotten as far as it did that day without your testimony, because that was super huge that day.

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Crystina: Thank you. I

717
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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: Welcome!

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Crystina: I'm pretty proud of that one.

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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: Yeah. So so we'll have to make sure that Mr. Rosalas has all the information. And the time after this I don't wanna keep taking away from the memorial meeting. I just really needed to take that opportunity to impose how important it is because Mayteenth is coming up.

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Daniel Rosales: Oh, I I think I think this certainly

721
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Daniel Rosales: takes priority because we have a hard

722
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Daniel Rosales: deadline.

723
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Daniel Rosales: and if if it does not get passed

724
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Daniel Rosales: we're looking at another year

725
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Daniel Rosales: before we could even talk about this again.

726
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Daniel Rosales: And and we can't afford to let these things continue. We have to stop it.

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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: Right? Right? Right? It's very important.

728
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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: And I think that with all these other hearings it became an overload to some of the families, because there it it, you know, I didn't understand the legislation pro legislation process until just now, recently, because we just go on with our lives. But that this

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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: is so important that I had to stop to make sure I understand, and are available for as many hearings as we can. And that's what I would like families to know, because they're important. This is this is

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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: because of them that it's even gotten attention and they deserve. They deserve the full efforts and not some half ass efforts being clouded by a lobbyist. And it's only one guy.

731
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Daniel Rosales: Wow! Wow!

732
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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: Yeah, Christina's been there. She knows as soon as I put those names together we got the black and white we got his bio.

733
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Crystina: And his address.

734
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Crystina: You're not supposed to include those things.

735
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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: Some research as soon as we have that here. And we did some research on, who's this guy?

736
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Crystina: We weren't even out of the hearing when we had

737
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Crystina: but yeah, no, this guy is he hasn't handed a lot of pies and he has a lot of money back in him. In fact, I don't know if you mentioned it.

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Crystina: Blanca, but I believe the first time I heard of it he had sci had donated $432,000 specifically to lobby against these efforts. So it's not just that he's showing up with a big mouth and some charisma. It's that he's actually showing up with big pockets and

739
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Crystina: and I I don't know who they think we are. But it doesn't cost money

740
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Crystina: to move people.

741
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Crystina: And that was my goal in testifying. I didn't think I was even gonna go and testify that day, quite frankly, I had other stuff going on and the last time I was at the House and Senate was to pass 2 17, which was the Integrity Act in response to my son's homicide, and we got that push through, and I didn't know if I wanted to go back in

742
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Crystina: and see some of those same legislators. On on this path, right? And I decided to kind of at last minute, and I really didn't have anything written out. I had like 4 notes

743
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Crystina: and doing that testimony.

744
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Crystina: I I

745
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Crystina: remember just the absolute silence.

746
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Crystina: and then like gasp. And so I know that if I can walk in there and just simply share my stories

747
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Crystina: and do it in 3 min and 8 s.

748
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Daniel Rosales: Was 50.

749
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Crystina: And

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Crystina: have that much impact. And Samantha, sharing her story of her grandmother, can have the impact she did, and and

751
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Crystina: his name slipping me. Who was it that called Sci do that? I'm sorry, Erin and Erin Erin stood there and he called Sci out like he moved. He moved the 2 of us to tears because he put his job and his some other stuff completely on the line to do that.

752
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Crystina: So, and that's just with a couple of people that spoke there, and there were several more. I remember Heather de Woolf's son spoke for the first time.

753
01:06:29.283 --> 01:06:33.059
Crystina: And if we can get more of us to show up

754
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Crystina: each of our stories, even as various as they are, even as different paths as we are on this whole journey.

755
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Crystina: Every one of our stories, matters, and.

756
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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: Yes.

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Crystina: I'm tired of like I I I told the news guys this week while we were camping out waiting for Carrie. For 9 h or 8 HI said, like, I hate being on the news. I don't like talking to you guys. I don't look good on the on camera. I don't I? I come across a lot more crass than I than I really am at heart.

758
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Crystina: And it puts me in a firing line, because now I'm taking on kind of the represent the the responsibility that comes with that and they they were like, Oh, yeah. Well.

759
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Crystina: well, why do you keep coming? And I said, because a lot of other people aren't, there's so many people out there that don't have a voice. Whether it's because they don't know that they have a voice, or because they can't speak up because their their spouses, or their community, or their job, or their pastor, or whatever it is, for whatever reason people are silent, and

760
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Crystina: it's not that I like my voice so much. It's that

761
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Crystina: I feel like I have a responsibility and a duty to speak up for people who don't have a voice.

762
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Crystina: But the more of us that show up with our voices, the more they're going to listen to us because they're going to realize that it's not just me, Samantha and Blanca, for example. They're going to realize that there's this woman's name Carrie, who is still waiting on her mother. Allie is still trying to find her daughter. George was affected, and he didn't even know any of us. Through all this. This was a totally different dude over here doing this one like people are going to.

763
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Crystina: People are going to start hearing us and realize how broad this is.

764
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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: Hmm.

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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: yes. Agree? Totally. Agree.

766
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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: Yeah.

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Crystina: But just like with the memorial, with the memorial, with the testimony, with with the social media support. Whatever it is that we're talking about. It's

768
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Crystina: limited by what we make it.

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Crystina: So it really is up to all of us to step forward and make this what we want it to be. If we want this to pass legislation, we need to show up for it. If we want a big, beautiful memorial, we need to show up for it. If we want to support each other, we need to show up for it. If we want to call out the bad actors, we need to show up for it.

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Crystina: So it really is in our hands. We have all the power in all of us. We don't have the power in the crimes, but we have the power, and how we respond as survivors of these crimes, and go forward in what our narrative is.

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Crystina: Come.

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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: Right

773
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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: back.

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Daniel Rosales: Well,

775
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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: And and and go ahead. Sorry.

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Daniel Rosales: Yeah, Christina, I'm gonna have to drop off. I haven't have another call

777
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Daniel Rosales: that I I need to get to

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Daniel Rosales: weekly.

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Crystina: Really.

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Daniel Rosales: The schools.

781
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Daniel Rosales: That's another big one I'm working on.

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Daniel Rosales: So I I I think.

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Daniel Rosales: we certainly have a basis to move forward.

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Daniel Rosales: And we?

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Daniel Rosales: If if the people that are on this call can get a hold of Christina, sign up.

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Daniel Rosales: let's let's get some assignments

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Daniel Rosales: spread out and assigned to people. We can start the process, and then we'll be adding people hopefully

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Daniel Rosales: a weekly, if not a daily basis. And

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Daniel Rosales: the project gets going. But

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Crystina: Excellent. Thank you so much, Daniel.

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Crystina: Thank you. Thank you.

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Crystina: and thank you, George, for bringing your dad to the party.

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Daniel Rosales: Where? Where's the champagne?

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Crystina: Right. That's what I'm saying. No, there will be a day that we bring champagne. I promise you. This is going to be an amazing, wonderful event.

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Daniel Rosales: Great. Yeah. And we'll try to get this many people there as we can.

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Crystina: Absolutely.

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Daniel Rosales: Thank you all for attending. And let's see what each of us can contribute

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Daniel Rosales: and call Christina

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Daniel Rosales: and let her know what you wanna help us with, and.

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George R: Sign up on on sign up on the website, or just put your name out there. It's and that way we know that we have that support and that we can actually assign people. And and basically, right now, it's just trying to get information out there. So we can get the list. And we can actually get the community involved.

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Crystina: Yeah, absolutely like, I said, I'll have the. I'll have the website totally automated by our Monday meeting. In the meantime, though, if those who are on this call

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Crystina: I think I got everybody noted down. I'm going to head back to work in just a few minutes so that I can do that. But I'll get this done if you guys will each reach out to me and just make sure I have contact information so that I can add you into the website. And we can start to get that rolling.

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Crystina: And that way, I'll share the the information with you guys as I get it finished, too.

804
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Crystina: Let's call it.

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George R: That would be awesome.

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Daniel Rosales: Okay, thank you. All.

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Crystina: And then I'll also if everybody will. If you aren't opposed, please send me a friends. Request if we're not already friends, and I will start a group Facebook

808
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Crystina: chat as well if we could keep it just to memorial issues. And not legislation, not Rt and K stuff, not Apollo stuff, but just the memorial stuff that would be great, so that none of us get overloaded with repeat messages.

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Daniel Rosales: Right.

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Crystina: So I'll set that up today.

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Daniel Rosales: Okay. Well, hey? Hope you have a good day. Keep warm and dry, cause it's snowing over here.

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Crystina: It is. It's the road through a mess. I'm gonna go make a ton of money on instacart tips. I hope

813
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Crystina: anybody's ends. The carding today took your driver

814
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Crystina: always flush around in no worries.

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George R: We. I will be back on on this call on Monday. Then.

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Crystina: I will as well, and everybody remember you're invited. Please invite your friends.

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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: It? Yeah.

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Crystina: Invite friends, invite industry professionals, invite legislators.

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Crystina: I have let the news guys know that they are welcome on that Monday call. I didn't want them on this one. I wanted this to be a little bit more intimate, but on that Monday call bring your cousin. Bring your like. Bring your architect

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Crystina: really we're really gonna need it. And it'd be nice to have a hundred family when we do the sign up. You're going to be able to sign up either as a family member, or as a community support or as an industry professional, or as the media or as law enforcement, just like on our community pages divided. Kind of I'd love to get a hundred that are actual family members

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Crystina: plus a bunch of community support. But I think even just even just getting a hundred people.

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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: Right.

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Crystina: With community support is also great. So bring your community supporters out because we're gonna need them to get these numbers and to let people know how important the system.

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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: Yeah, absolutely. Agree.

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Crystina: Yeah, and make sure that people have the right. You know. The zoom

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Crystina: They, if you share from the family page, remember, if you share from the family page, nobody can see it

827
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Crystina: unless they're on the family page. So you'll get a lot of people confused and thinking you're spam. If you share from the community support page.

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Crystina: let people know that they're welcome to join that community support. And I'll actually post I'll start a new Facebook page, too, just for the memorial and maybe we'll do that. Maybe we'll just so.

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Blanca Eberhardt, Instructor: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Crystina: Time. In the meantime share the zoom link.

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Crystina: Not the Facebook Events page. But then once I get that Facebook page, that Facebook group set up. I'll actually do that right now while I'm talking. But once I get that set up, I'll invite you all invite people there, cause that'll be a public group. I'll I'll leave it open so that I'll monitor it for spam. And I welcome admins, please but

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Crystina: invite people to that. And you know, let people know that we need. We need support on this.

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Crystina: I think it'll be fantastic, though.

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Crystina: Does anybody have any objection to me keeping everything, as Colorado remembers right now, just because that's what

835
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Crystina: the domain is that and us changing it as we

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Crystina: go forward with board, and things like that.

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George R: I think that it's actually it's that's a good name. For

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George R: the present time.

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George R: We can actually change it at at a different date. If that's what we need to do. But I think caller remembers is.org is actually a great start.

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Crystina: Okay, cool. Thank you. Yeah. That's what I was thinking. I don't like. I said, I don't wanna be presumptuous. I don't wanna start making decisions without anybody. But I was driving down the road and was at a stoplight trying to think of a domain to register so we could get a start on it. And that's what came to me. So I'm going to do the Facebook page under that as well, for now.

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Crystina: Just know that at any point we can change all that so

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Crystina: cool.

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George R: Excellent.

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Crystina: Hold on! I'm going to invite Carol.

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Crystina: Daniel.

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Carol Prest: I have to drop off.

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Carol Prest: Okay.

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Crystina: Bye, Henny.

849
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Carol Prest: one of these things on the community. You know I'm going to go around to the nurseries because I have some connection with them and ask for donations.

850
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Carol Prest: From them?

851
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Carol Prest: Would they count as some of the 100

852
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Carol Prest: 1,000.

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Crystina: What we need is that.

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George R: More more of a hundred volunteers, more.

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Carol Prest: Hello!

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Crystina: So for the 100 signing off. Okay.

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Crystina: okay, bye.

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George R: Yeah, for for the 100, we need a hundred families that would actually be be involved with the

859
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George R: yeah, that we we can get the names so we can put.

860
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George R: put it on the legislature.

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George R: put pressure on them and put get, get the property assigned to us, and then we can start building on that property

862
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George R: right now. Getting donations. We probably still need to get up put up a bank account in for Colorado remembers

863
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George R: so that we could start putting in. Go fund me pages, or we can go ahead and start collecting donations and or P and getting people involved.

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Crystina: Okay.

865
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George R: Start working on that

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George R: we start working on that list. I'm not too sure if if somebody wants to start

867
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George R: writing down names, and especially like the people that showed up today would probably

868
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George R: start. Be on that list.

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George R: I went and see that

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George R: anybody here would be opposed to not helping out.

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Crystina: Great. Yeah, that's what. I have the website. It's I'm fixing the infrastructure right now. So by Monday we'll have a sign up list.

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Crystina: and it'll look kind of like a change.org petition.

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Crystina: just to give an idea of what the like format will look like, and that way. We can send people directly to that page to see. These are all the people who are supporting this, and next to each one it'll say, victim family, or it'll say community supporter, and we'll be able to sort it so that we can see that we have. You know this much support, or whatever, and that will, like George saying, Give us an idea of

874
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Crystina: of

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Crystina: Or give us some of that. That

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Crystina: clout, I guess, to then take it to legislators to then take it to people we're asking donations from so that they can see this isn't a handful of people that want to throw up

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Crystina: a a picnic table and a oak tree. This is a large number of people who want to be involved, who wanna make it happen? Who want to actually see this come to fruition.

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Crystina: and it'll give us a little bit more of a little oomph.

879
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George R: The short name is all.

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George R: Yes, that looks good. Well, I'll I'll I'll look forward to seeing that on Monday. And yeah, I gotta get busy, too. So I'm gonna drop off. But you guys have a good rest of your weekend, and we'll see you on the other side of this weekend.

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Crystina: Awesome. Thank you.

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George R: Right, bye.

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Ali Rose: Stanley.

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Ali Rose: Christina!

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Crystina: Yes.

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Ali Rose: Hi, so I I believe. Daniel was talking about minutes

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Ali Rose: the

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Ali Rose: last meeting, or last time he was on.

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Ali Rose: So are we going to have minutes for this.

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Crystina: Yeah, so I'm still recording right now. But when I share, I'm not gonna share the the vocals or the audio of any of this. What I'm gonna do is put it through a transcriber.

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Crystina: and I'll I'll cut out like the last few minutes of this and that sort of thing.

892
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Crystina: You know, but I'll put it into

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Crystina: just raw transcribe this time.

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Crystina: Honestly, to be just real transparent, because I'm way too busy to

895
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Crystina: and have way too many other things, and I'm not going to commit to fixing those notes. But if you would like to, I would be happy to send you the transcription, and have you

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Crystina: run with that.

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Ali Rose: Yeah, do that. I'll send you my email if you don't have it.

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Crystina: Yeah, that'd be great. And I probably will not get to that today. To be honest with you, I want to be out of here out of the house in the next 20 min or so, and I'm probably gonna work like a dog until 7 o'clock tonight and do the same thing tomorrow, so it will be you know, to sometime

899
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Crystina: later, when I get home, either tonight or tomorrow. I'll make sure that you get that. And then Monday again, we'll have actually be doing the exact same thing.

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Crystina: So

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Crystina: maybe we wait until Monday, and then I put the 2 together and we make something cohesive out of the 2.

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Ali Rose: Okay, yeah, no worries. I just send it when you have a chance, and just let me know.

903
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Crystina: But yeah, if you want to. Take on some secretarial stuff in the.

904
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Crystina: you know, at least in the short term. That would be great.

905
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Ali Rose: Yeah, I, I I enjoy doing that kind of stuff. So, yeah.

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Crystina: Okay, right on. Yeah, that would be a huge help. Cause I'm I'm trying to juggle a lot. And I think

907
01:22:27.440 --> 01:22:29.120
Crystina: getting this memorial

908
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Crystina: heading. It's not going to add work for me. It's going to streamline a lot of the work because a lot of the things that I'll be doing with the memorial will likely be things that I'm already doing.

909
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Crystina: and it'll just give it more purpose and more focus. So but there's a lot of I can't. I'm not going to be able to keep up with a lot of the

910
01:22:52.920 --> 01:22:55.279
Crystina: the Admin stuff. I'm going to need a lot of help.

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Crystina: Okay, that would be great. So yeah, anything that anybody can do to help with any of this is very much welcomed, and I courage.

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Ali Rose: Yeah, I can.

913
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Hector: Grade on some poppy room.

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Ali Rose: Let me know. Okay.

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Crystina: What did you say, Hector?

916
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Ali Rose: Let's set it up.

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Hector: Said I, I'm certainly wanting to hop in. I have some marketing background. So

918
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Hector: making some copy right now

919
01:23:23.310 --> 01:23:24.789
Hector: is basically like

920
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Hector: the basis for ads and

921
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Hector: banners and whatnot.

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Crystina: Nice.

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01:23:32.720 --> 01:23:37.050
Crystina: Yeah, that'd be great. Hector, you can help with marketing.

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01:23:40.760 --> 01:23:41.540
Ali Rose: Awesome.

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Crystina: Cool right on. That'll be a huge help, cause I can.

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Hector: Name the cello

927
01:23:47.090 --> 01:23:52.860
Hector: family, isn't it? On my phone? But you have to use it on the computer to set up the workplaces. So

928
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Hector: set more of those up to.

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Crystina: Right on

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Crystina: cool.

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Crystina: I'm gonna jump off here so that I can get a couple of things wrapped up with the website. And then.

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Crystina: Allie, I'm going to send you a list of people who are on here like in just a few minutes.

933
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Crystina: so that you can help me

934
01:24:16.615 --> 01:24:21.229
Crystina: keep track of that, at least in the short term before anything else.

935
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Crystina: Because I don't want to lose track of that. And then I just opened a new

936
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Crystina: the Facebook group it's called Colorado remembers it has a really wonky background. Right now. I'm trying to find a little bit that I put together.

937
01:24:35.491 --> 01:24:40.630
Crystina: But yeah, I'll send you some of that stuff if you can help me check.

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Ali Rose: Okay, no problem. You have my email.

939
01:24:45.736 --> 01:24:47.680
Crystina: No! Can you send it to me through messenger.

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Ali Rose: Okay, I will.

941
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Ali Rose: Awesome. Alright. Everybody. You have.

942
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Crystina: Nice.

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Ali Rose: Alright. See you later.

944
01:24:56.310 --> 01:24:57.540
Crystina: Okay? Bye.

945
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Ali Rose: Bye.